Social Engineering
Both Joe and Bernie seem to think that social change of any kind needs to be planned and executed in a somewhat organized way. Very few meaningful social changes in the past came through that route. They came when the tension between the past habits and the current reality was suddenly high enough to break through our natural reistance to changing our way - our drive for stability of our identity. From this perspective slowing down the rate of change runs the risk of still reaching the concerned end state both of them worry about without providing a high enough kick to spark the inner change in each of us to lead to the social change they try to sketch out.
